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August 17th, 2008
Tony DeFranco’s
office is located in Westlake Village, a three hour commute by Los Angeles city
transit, beyond the San Fernando Valley and through the mountains via the
Ventura Freeway. Compared to the sea of cement and smog in LA, Westlake Village
seems like the Garden of Eden with its lush green landscapes and wide open
spaces. It is no wonder that this area has attracted some of pop culture’s
biggest names as a place to live. Notable names such as Cuba Gooding Jr, Tom Selleck, Will
Smith, Mickey Rooney, Wayne Gretzky, Denise Richards, The Olsen Twins, Joe Montana and Donna
Summer, amongst others, have called Westlake Village their home making Westlake
Village a community for the rich and famous, which could
possibly be one of the reasons that Tony DeFranco has been able to make a successful living
out of selling Westlake Village properties to people looking to move to this
high class community. However my journey to Tony DeFranco’s office had nothing
to do with relocating from my home in Canada to Westlake Village. Hell, I was
worried if I’d even have enough money to buy lunch in the poshest plaza that I
had ever seen across the street from Tony’s office. No, I had made the journey
to talk to Tony DeFranco about his time as a hit making recording artist and
teen idol. You see, decades before Tony was a successful realtor, he was lead
singer and poster boy for the pop group The DeFranco Family, and had a mega hit
with the bubblegum classic “Heartbeat (It’s a Lovebeat).”
Tony’s story began in Port Colbourne,
Ontario where he and his older brothers Benny and Nino, and sisters Marisa and
Merlina, found relative success as a band in the Niagara Peninsula in the early
1970s. When a local audience member sent a picture of the group to Tiger Beat
Magazine’s head honcho Chuck Laufer, Laufer took notice of the photogenic
kids. With
family pop acts, such as the Osmond Brothers and the Jackson Five being popular
at the time, it was no wonder that the DeFrancos would attract Laufer’s
attention. Laufer flew the DeFranco Family to LA, did some photos and cut some
demos and within months the DeFranco Family had their first single, “Heartbeat
(It’s a Lovebeat)” hit number one on the Billboard Charts in 1973. A fixture in
each and every issue of Tiger Beat, and appearances on programs such as
The Mike Douglas Show and American Bandstand and even presenting at
the Grammy Awards gave the DeFrancos even more exposure. However every band
needs its front man and thirteen year old lead singer Tony was suddenly thrust
into the spotlight gaining the majority of the attention. Tony joined the
brotherhood of the 70’s teen idol amongst legends like David Cassidy, Bobby
Sherman and Donny Osmond, during the decade that produced the best bubblegum hits
of all time. The D eFrancos had follow up hits with “Abra-Ca-Dabra” (not to be
mistaken by the Steve Miller Band hit) and a cover of the Drifter’s classic
“Save the Last Dance For Me,” but fame would be fleeting. By 1978, as a result
of mismanagement and the fickleness of the musical tastes of teenage girls, not
to mention the advent of punk and new wave pushing out disco and bubblegum, the
DeFranco Family decided to call it a day, and the group retired from show
business.
Today it is hard to recognize Tony
DeFranco as being the same kid who sang “Heartbeat (It’s a Lovebeat).”
He’s obviously a lot taller and a bit older. However, it is no surprise
that Tony was once a major teen idol. He still has the good looks,
charisma and charm that one would expect a teen idol to possess, which,
coincidently, are the same
attributes to be a successful realtor. Tony graciously took time out of his
busy day to share with me stories about his days as a recording artist, and relived the
good times, as well as the bad times, of being a teen superstar. Our talk was
open, honest and blunt. Tony’s story is not only a snapshot in the reality of
the teen idol, but it also doubles as a warning to the teen superstars of
today. A lot can be learnt from Tony DeFranco’s story.
So come and listen to a conversation
between two guys from Ontario in the heart of California as
CONFESSIONS OF A POP CULTURE ADDICT
PRESENTS
HEARTBEATS, LOVEBEATS AND
TIGER BEATS:
A CONVERSATION WITH TONY
DeFRANCO
I talked to Tony DeFranco at his
office in Westlake Village in July 2008
Sam: So Tony. How often do you get
a chance to talk about your days as a pop star? Do you think about it very
often?
Tony: I stay in touch with the old
days a little bit. Not too much. I mean I get calls from promoters that say
“Tony! I guess things are pretty bad right now, huh?” And I say “What are you
talking about” and they say “Real estate is really bad” and I say “Well, it’s
not that bad for me” and they say “Damn, because we really hoped you’d join our
show.”
Sam: Do you still perform at all?
Tony: On occasion. It’s been a
while now. I get offers a ll the time to join up with some 70’s revue program in
Vegas and/or wherever they are. I’ve done it a few times but, frankly, it takes
me away from my business and in my business I have a lot of responsibility and I
can’t in all honesty say to my clients “Hey, I don’t mind selling your property
for seven million dollars but I’m leaving for a couple of days to sing
‘Heartbeat’ one more time.”
Sam: Well on the occasions that you
have done the revue shows what has that been like? Do you enjoy that?
Tony: What I do enjoy most about it
is being on stage in front of the people and meeting people that are flipping
out and never got a chance to meet me and all of a sudden it's now decades later
and they’re standing there shaking with the record wanting me to sign it after
and that humbles me. I think that’s kind of cool. I don’t like the travel
part. I don’t like all the nonsense behind the scenes but, you know, the music
starts, they introduce me and then I’m having a good time.
Sam: Does any of your siblings join
you on stage anymore?
Tony: They have. If it’s
in town. We’ve done a couple of things in town. Rhino Records did a
Retro Fest at the Santa Monica Civic Center so that was fun, but th at
was years ago now. I’ve done a few things with just my brother Benny because
Benny can just back me up on guitar, we do four or five songs, and then we’re
out of there.
Sam: So Tony, one thing we have in
common is that we’re two Canadian guys in California. You’re originally from
Ontario…
Tony: Port Colborne!
Sam: And you lived in Welland as
well at one point?
Tony: Yeah, we lived moved to
Welland for a year or a year and a half.
Sam: So do you still have a lot of
friends or connections in Canada?
Tony: A lot of family. You know
there’s a small army of us Italian Canadians.
Sam: Do you ever go back there?
Tony. Yeah. You know, for
a long time there I didn’t go back there that often but we went back last summer
and visited family. We went to my Uncle’s lake house and three or four
years ago Benny and I actually went back to Port Colbourne and we sang. They actually put together this thing for
us in the little town hall and people were coming out of the woodwork so that
was fun. That was really cool.
Sam: So how long have you been here
in California now?
Tony: Since 1972. Once we
moved here to record “Heartbeat” and the magic carpet ride, as I call it,
[happened] we
only went back to visit. I never lived in Canada again.
Sam: So I was
doing some research and I saw this
article that was scanned from an issue of Tiger Beat which was talking
about you becoming an American Citizen in 1976 during the US Bi-Centennial,
however, another article I read during my research says you maintain your
Canadian citizenship.
Tony: Yes. That was just Tiger Beat
looking for something to talk about.
Sam: Have you seen that article?
Tony: No. I have no idea. I
haven’t picked up a Tiger Beat in decades. The writers were very nice
but they’d sit down and talk to me looking for something. Anything to write
that totally wasn’t b.s. and it got to the point that maybe it looked like I had
a bit of an attitude because I was a thirteen or fourteen year old kid and
they’d ask “So Tony. What’s your favorite color?” and I’d go “I don’t know.
Orange?” and all of a sudden they write “Tony’s favorite color is orange” and
then I’m getting orange stuff in the mail from little girls.
Sam: So let’s go all the way back to
Port Colbourne and your family. Benny started playing guitar first and then all
of you kids played instruments.
Tony: That’s right. Without any
vocals. We were an instrumental band.
Sam: Now were your parents musical?
Did they play?
Tony: Well my Dad did. He wasn’t
trained but one of the first things he bought once he got off the boat from
Italy when he immigrated to Canada was a guitar. So he would sit there and
entertain himself and he actually had a great voice so whenever we played the
Niagara Peninsula, playing weddings and whatever the heck we did my Dad would
eventually, after he had a couple of drinks, get up and sing something in
Italian and people loved it. He had a great voice.
Sam: Did you ever do Tiny Talent
Time?
Tony: We did! My family did it once
before I was old enough and once or twice with me. We have little recordings of
it…”and now we have little Tony DeFranco and the DeFranco Family. Tony, please
answer this question” and it’s hysterical.
Sam: I think everybody of a certain
age that grew up in Ontario knows someone who did Tiny Talent Time.
Tony: We thought that was huge but,
in retrospect, was it just local? Was it just the Niagara Peninsula?
Sam: It was filmed on CHCH in Hamilton but
it was broadcast all over Ontario.
Tony: It was cool.
Sam: Yeah, but it’s not The Mike
Douglas Show. It’s not American Bandstand. It’s not the Grammys.
Tony: But it was a part of us
growing up. It’s amazing over the years how much talent has come out of
Ontario. A lot of Canadian talent from actors to singers to comedians. It’s
amazing and you kind of wonder why. Is it something in the water?
Sam: Something in the great polluted
Lake Ontario just makes it happen. So your family was a legitimate instrumental
band, Benny’s writing original music, and all of a sudden your picture gets sent
to Tiger Beat, you’re in LA and you guys instantly get turned into
bubblegum/pop.
Tony: Yes and no. I mean, yes, for
a lot of people that are trying to have a hit record, for that to happen to us,
that’s why I always refer it to the magic carpet ride. Here we are playing in
the Niagara Peninsula, I sing a song or two at a park, a gentleman saw us and
approached my Dad and said “Hey, I used to work with the Osmonds and your
family’s got something here” and my Dad says “Okay, whatever you say” so this
guy took some pictures, did a couple of recordings and sent them to various teen
magazines and record companies. He got a response from AMPEX Records in Canada
and we actually got a deal with them briefly. Then we got a response from the
publisher of Tiger Beat Magazine who flew us to Hollywood and I was like
a deer in headlights. I’d never seen a palm tree. Total deer in
headlights. Long story short, we met [Chuck Laufer] from Tiger Beat, we went to his
house, I sang for him in front of a piano and he flew us up after and
said “You know what? Let’s do a few demos.” He couldn’t get a producer who
wanted to work with us who had success, just because they were
saying “I don’t want to work with kids! What am I going to do with these
kids?” So he got a guy named Walt Meskell under Mike Curb, and Mike Curb
is huge these days, and we did three or four demos and one of them was
“Heartbeat.” We took it to Russ Reagan, president of 20th Century Records,
and he basically flipped out and the rest is history. Within six months
we’re driving down Ventura Boulevard in the heart of the San Fernando Valley and
my brother turns up the radio and he’s flipping out! And then you couldn’t
stop hearing because, back then in AM radio, the rotation was really short so
you’d just change stations and there it was.
Sam: So what can you tell me about
the rest of the group?
Tony: What their up to today?
Sam: What do they do today, who they
are as people. Are you still close to your family?
Tony: Well we’re an Italian family.
All families have arguments and issues but we’re close. We’re all within one
hour of each other. My brother Benny, my sisters Marisa, Merlin a and their
families, my mother, they all live out about forty five minutes from where I
live here in Thousand Oaks. My brother Nino is local. No one is in the
entertainment industry although Marisa continues to sing. She never wanted to
stop singing so she sings on weekend and keeps herself occupied and we all
pretty much look the same except for a little more or little less hair. I’m
thinking a little less hair for a few of us but I’m not pointing the finger.
Sam: Who are you closest to?
Tony: Family wise?
Sam: Yeah.
Tony: That’s an interesting
question. I don’t know. When it comes to family and brothers and sisters it’s
tough to say you’re closest to somebody. I think most recently Benny. When I
was younger Benny and I were not that close. He was just my older br other but
over the years we’ve become relatively closer. I’m very close to my sister Merlina.
Sam: Your closest in age, aren’t
you?
Tony: Yeah.
Sam: God. She was cute. I might
have a bit of a crush on her.
Tony: She still is.
Sam: Now are you sick of all the
Osmond comparisons over the years? You know, people ask me about the DeFranco
Family and I say that instead of being Mormons they were Italian. They were
the Italian Osmonds.
Tony: Or the Canadian Jackson Five.
You know, I ended up going to a private school in the San Fernando Valley and it
had celebrity brats, including me, and wealthy kids and Michael Jackson went
there. We never saw him except for on occasion. So one day we’re playing with
my buddy’s basketball and I’m a short little Italian/Canadian kid that can’t
shoot for shit, but Michael is standing on the corner and I yell “Hey Michael,
just join us. Lets have some fun!” and he’s waving at us no. And I say hold on
to the guys and I walk up to Michael and I say “Michael. It’s okay. Just shoot
some baskets with us” and he literally says to me “Uh, Tony. I don’t like to
sweat unless I’m on stage.” So I say “Ooookay. Thank you for that bit of
information but you’re welcomed to join us” and I just walked away.
Sam: So I was talking to Jimmy
Osmond a number of years ago and he was saying that one of the problems in the
Osmond Family was that Merrill was the lead singer when the band started but
when the spotlight fell on Donny there were some jealousy issues that the
brothers eventually managed to iron out. Were there any jealousy issues with
the DeFrancos when the band became The DeFranco Family featuring Tony DeFranco?
Tony: We always put it aside but, in
hindsight, absolutely. I think my brothers, and my sisters probably, knew that
I was getting all the attention and the spotlight was obviously on me. The lead
singer always gets the most attention and I was getting a lot of mail but I
think we all handled it well. We all had our individual fans. My brothers had
their own age group of fans and there was no animosity. In hindsight I see it,
but we figured it out.
Sam: Now Donny Osmond and Michael
Jackson have both gone on record talking about feeling a lot of pressure being
the youngest in the family and being in the spotlight and Donny has had his
issues, and Michael has his issues.
Tony: No…not Michael!
Sam: Yeah. He has more issues then
a year subscription to TV Guide. But how did you
feel that same kind of pressure and how did you handle it?
Tony: Yeah, I actually managed to
handle fame relatively well. Here’s part of the problem when you have fame.
You start as nobody and then you have fame and, well, let’s talk about going
back to Port Colbourne and Welland after having a hit record. We were greeted
with the key to the city and a parade in Port Colbourne and people were coming
out of the woodwork and pulling on our hair and going berserk and that’s all
fine and dandy but the real issue is what happens when you stop having a hit
record. You start going down and you can’t get your career started again and
all of a sudden you can’t get arrested and people are treating you differently
and you’re still a teenage boy. You’re nineteen or twenty years old and people
are treating you like crap. So it was something that I had to deal with and I
have my skeletons in the closet but, frankly I never went down the toilet like
so many people do. I never had any drug problems. It’s hard for me to even
take a Tylenol. Maybe it was because we came from a loving family. Maybe it’s
because I’ve always just pushed forward and tried to be a good person but during
the actual fame portion I kind of retracted. We bought a property, closed the
gates and there were always girls parked down at the bottom of the driveway so
you drive by or walk by and they were all over you so I learnt to deal with
that, but maybe because it was so short lived, after all these years, looking
back I handled it pretty good.
Sam: So let’s talk about those girls
sitting at the bottom of the driveway for a minute. I can remember being twelve
years old and having a hard time getting a dance with a girl. What was it like
for you to have your pick?
Tony: You know, it was a bit
overwhelming because I didn’t know who to trust. I mean, did they like me
because I had fame and hit a record or were they just genuine? I’m sure fans
would not like hearing this but more often then not if I met a girl who had no
idea who I was, I had more interest in her. But the ones that were just
drooling and sitting at the bottom of the driveway…well how do you have a
relationship with someone like that? I just couldn’t do it. I feel weird
saying that but it’s been enough decades that I doubt it matters anymore.
Sam: Have you ever sold a house to a
fan?
Tony: People have known who I was
and we’ve talked about it and people get a chuckle out of it but anybody who is
a big time fan, I don’t know. That may be difficult to work with.
Sam: What was the most ridiculous or
insane thing that a fan ever did that, even at the age of thirteen, you were
stunned and wondering what was going on?
Tony: Well I don’t think it was
one particular fan but we had security issues a lot on tour and we were playing
in Chicago and the stage got overrun by girls. First one girl jumped the
stage and a cop comes out and pulls her off the stage. Then two, three,
four and suddenly the entire stage was overrun by girls. We were literally
getting ma uled
and pulled down. We managed to get back to the dressing room. They
followed us back to the dressing room. Hundreds of them, pounding on the
doors. So they get us on the bus and they were hanging all over the bus
and ripping off the mirrors and we just barely got out of there. I mean I
was bruised, had hair pulled out and it was pretty overwhelming.
Sam: Do you think it was a mob
mentality or a type of hysteria that made them act like that?
Tony: Well, yeah. I have a picture
of us doing a live show and the shot is from behind. You can see that it is me
singing on the stage but the shot is really of the crowd and the cops are
standing along the front and the girls are pressed up against the stage and
bawling their eyes out and screaming so when I see footage of that, like the
Beatles, I remember that I had a small piece of that. And I guess what you call
it is a fanatic and it's so over the top that they aren’t even listening to the
music. It’s just their chance to see you and they are flipping out. They also
feed off of each other so if one is flipping out they all start flipping out.
Sam:
Now near the end of your singing
career you started working with Mike Curb, who was working with Donny Osmond,
and he had this absolutely moronic idea of making the DeFranco Family into a
cover band.
Tony: Not only that, but to us, and
I’m going to be brutally honest, they were Osmond leftovers that Donny and the
rest of the Osmonds didn’t want to sing.
Sam: Well that is what Donny was
doing at that time. He was having hits with covers such as “Puppy Love” and
“The Twelfth of Never” and “Are You Lonesome Tonight.”
Tony: But here’s the deal. We had a
sound. When you listen to the talent and the musicians that Walt Meskill had
hired for our early sessions they were really good. So we had a sound that I
thought was really cool. I don’t listen to it very often but when I got into
the project of re-releasing our family music on CD I listened to them and
thought “ Damn,
[Walt] was really good.” So then we look at the progression were we
said “Let’s go to Mike Curb. Lets go to somebody else who has had success” and
that’s all fine and dandy and maybe we could have had done better with him.
Maybe not. But my memory of it as a young man was “Okay. I’m not comfortable
with this” and the record company and the manager saying “What do you know?
You’re a teenage boy. Just go in. He’s really good.” So they
decide that he’s going to produce us. We work on song keys and the next
thing we know and the songs are ready for vocals. I went “What do you
mean? Where’s the session? I want to go to the session of the tracks
being recorded.” They say “No no, their all ready to be sung on.” So
I go “How do you know their in the right key?” They said they’d be fine.
So, you know what, I may have been a young man but I wasn’t stupid enough to
know that these songs had already been recorded and I went and listened to them
and my heart
sank,
my head sank and I went “These are somebody else’s leftovers.” I didn’t
like it. This is how I felt back then. Mike Curb was a very
successful…is still a very successful...business man so I don’t hold a grudge
against him. I think it was a mistake of management and the record company
to go down that path. I’m not criticizing Mike Curb’s work. I’m
criticizing the choices for what we were known for sound wise and those songs
didn’t work for us at all.
Sam: Now Benny was writing songs and
they wouldn’t let those songs be recorded. What was the reason for that?
Tony: It’s probably mostly politics,
because I remember having gone to a few people and you would think that they
would say “Hey, this is great” because as greedy as everybody was in management
and our circle of people, you’d think they’d go “Hmm. Well their writing songs,
and Tony’s giving Benny lyrics and their kind of putting together these great
ideas, maybe we can make a lot more money off the publishing side.” And anybody
who knows anything about music knows there’s a lot more money in publishing but
it just never came to be. So be it.
Sam: What would you say the
difference between the 70’s pop industry compared to today’s pop industry?
Tony: You know, I don’t think there
is much of a difference anymore. Because for a long time there after the so
called manufactured children’s groups were going away, people said it was
bubblegum and it had a negative condemnation. Then it went through the boy band
era. Now if you look today, what is probably the strongest selling marketing
thing, and it’s all manufactured, is Disney stuff. Hannah Montana to High
School Musical, and its all the same [as the 70’s], just magnified, because
I was just telling my son last night, because we were talking about whose making
it and whose not making it, that I made it in the wrong era because if I had
made it today I’d have a lot of money. Back then I made nothing. Big
difference. Because all of these people, and I’m not taking away from their
talent because I’m not throwing out any nam es, some of them are probably
genuinely talented but some of them are really borderline. Their are
applications and studio tricks that make some of them sound really good and all
I know is that when I was in the studio I worked my butt off until two or three
in the morning, as a little boy, rerecording. There weren’t any computer tools
to fix my vocals. I had to do it. But I think it’s the same thing. It’s a
marketing machine. I don’t think Chuck Laufer, who was the publisher of
Tiger Beat, had it wrong. He signed us and simultaneously promoted my face
in the magazine which fueled interest in the record, which was two fold.
Sam: Which came first? The magazine
or the record?
Tony: He did some test pictures of
me in Tiger Beat to see what the response was, and from the responses he
got back from the little girls he said “We gotta do a record with this kid.”
Sam: Now one of the greatest things
I get to do in my work is getting the chance to talk to my icons and idols. In
your career was there anybody you met that just blew your mind?
Tony: That’s a sore subject because
a lot of times people have celebrities, actors or singers or whatever, and you
really want to meet them. You just can’t wait to meet them and then you got to
be careful what you wish for because when you do meet them you think “What a god
damn asshole.” It’s happened frequently. But realistically I’ve never been
overly excited about meeting to many people but every once in a while you meet
somebody and you think “That’s a genuine talent” and you know why they have a
long career. I worked with Tina Turner. I met her when she was doing the movie
What’s Love Got to Do With It. I helped coordinate the sessions to
recreate her recordings and she was down to earth, she was great, and she sang
her ass off. And I remember one of the Disney suits, because the whole studio
was full of Disney suits, asking “How do you work this thing,” talking about the
talk back feature and the engineer says “Push that button” and the suit says
“Um, Tina, I’m thinking...” and he wanted to put in his two cents about how she
should sing her song. And she asks “Who are you? Well, I’ve been singing this
song a long time and there are many things you can tell me how to do in life,
but don’t ever tell me how to sing that song!” So that guy put his tail between
his legs and left. It was hysterical. Then there was Dick Clark. We met him
numerous times. He was fantastic.
Sam: Well I read that when you guys
first appeared on American Bandstand that it received the highest rating
that the show had gotten up to that point. The record was obviously broken soon
afterwards, but that’s pretty impressive.
T ony: Well it was cool because it
was the first national show we were on and we had this stupid, ridiculous dance
routine for “Heartbeat” where we did this stupid heart shaped thing [with our
hands]. Some of the dance routines were pretty cool but that very first time on
Bandstand was like “What the hell is this?” We got rid of that
choreographer and we got somebody else. But my point is that Dick Clark made us
comfortable. He said “This is what’s going to happen. You're going to do this,
this and this and I’m going to ask you a few questions, make your answers
relatively short, and then we’re going to segway and you walk off this way.”
I’ve always been comfortable in front of people, comfortable on stage,
comfortable with a microphone but never comfortable with cameras and that very
very first time on that show it hit me like a freight train so I just did what
he said. I sang, answered the questions and I think I got through that. The
cameras were always bothersome.
Sam: What I find interesting
when I flip through some of the teen magazines from the 70’s, and right into the
80’s, is that I often have to actually wikipedia some of the featured stars,
like Sajid Khan and Corky Nemic, so I can figure out who some of these guys
are. So this proves that fame can be fleeting.
Tony: Absolutely.
 Sam: So what would your advice be to
some of the teen idols of today? I mean, if you could sit and have a one on one
with a guy like Zac Efron what would you tell him?.
Tony: I would just say don’t
let it get to your head. And it’s really interesting because that was one
of the first things they said to me and I didn’t know what they were talking
about. But in hindsight it all got to their heads and they were the ones
who got an ego out of it and got greedy. So to go back to these younger
kids right now I’d say don’t let it get to your head and stay humble because you
might think your amazing today and everybody’s telling you you’re so fantastic
and your hearing yourself on the radio and everybody is taking pictures of you
and everybody wants your autograph so you think you’re fantastic. But stay
grounded. Kee p
control of knowing where your money is at. Who’s handling your money and
be smart about it because it may not be there very long. Odds are it wont.
Think about how many people, and I’m just talking about the music business, who
have had more then one hit record. Not many. How many have had more
then two hit records? I mean it goes down and down and down, and the
artists that have had success from decade to decade can probably be counted on
two hands. That’s it! The road is littered with the carcasses of
many dead careers. But be smart about your career today and what you do
with your money because otherwise your going to find yourself twenty or thirty
years down the line being desperate to hang on to your fame. So what
happens with that, and I’m not throwing out any names, is you’re still working
the system. You’re trying to get some interviews with some companies and a
record deal and you’re on tour and you’re just trying to live off of that old
fame. It took me a long time to say “I don’t need to do that.” I really
don’t. I mean I did want it for a while. Could I record again? Do
a CD of some standards? Yes I could and I would do it for fun with zero
expectations of it taking off and I’d just sell it on-line but that would be the
only way I’d do that.
Sam: I know what you are talking
about. I’ve seen it happen to guys far too often.
Tony: It’s like their hitting their
heads against the walls and their desperate for the next gig where they’re going
to get paid three hundred bucks. It’s pathetic.
Sam: What would you say the most
valuable thing you learnt from that period of your life?
Tony: School of hard knocks. Not to
be so trusting of anybody when it came to contracts. You see, my parents
immigrated from Canada right off of the boat and were struggling with the
English language and they were very trusting so when somebody wanted to work
with us or wanted to sign us my Dad would be very humble and say “Take good care
of my kids” instead of saying “Maybe I should get an entertainment attorney to
look at this contract and make sure my kids are being taken care of.” And I’m
not bagging on my Dad, but the biggest lesson I learnt is that the entertainment
industry is a dirty business, it’s a greedy business and you have to look out
for yourself because nobody is going to look out for you. But it was fun
though. I have memories from back then that I wouldn’t trade for anything because the reality is
that when people say “You must have become a millionaire from that,” I’m a
millionaire in experiences and how it changed my life.
Sam: Well that’s great Tony. Thank
you!
Tony: You got it!
My afternoon with Tony DeFranco was
easily one of the highlights of my time in California. Tony was very good to me
and one of the most down to earth and genuine people I have ever had the chance
to interview during the time that I’ve been doing Confessions of a Pop Culture
Addict. However, its no secret that I am a huge 1970’s bubblegum fan, so
spending some time with one of the stars from that industry was a thrill all
it’s own. I want to thank Tony for being such an open and honest host, and for
giving me something special to remember during my first trip to California. |